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	<description>Social media marketing for small non-profits</description>
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		<title>By: innotek 5100</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-4126</link>
		<dc:creator>innotek 5100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, must say you put it right, i totally agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, must say you put it right, i totally agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: johnhaydon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-4095</link>
		<dc:creator>johnhaydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice dog in your avatar! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice dog in your avatar! <img src='http://www.johnhaydon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dogs</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-4094</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this John, it was a very interesting read.  Scott I`m with you on that on aswell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this John, it was a very interesting read.  Scott I`m with you on that on aswell.</p>
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		<title>By: johnhaydon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-3965</link>
		<dc:creator>johnhaydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, Dave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re welcome, Dave!</p>
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		<title>By: iuc 5100</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-3964</link>
		<dc:creator>iuc 5100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you here Scott, no doubts whatsoever in my mind! BTW, thank you for sharing this John!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you here Scott, no doubts whatsoever in my mind! BTW, thank you for sharing this John!</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Henderson</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - I agree with you...there has to be a better way for non-profits and corporations to work together.  Glad Beth and you could flesh out the key points of this. And, glad Joe brings in the concept of coming from a position of strength.

We can expect to see more of this as existing organizations learn how to use social media and cause marketing together.  While we&#039;ll have many glorious failures, we&#039;ll have some great innovations, too.

@scottyhendo

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scott Henderson’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mediasauce-blog/~3/bRVoKhAKuPk/&quot;&gt;The Back Story of the Pledge to End Hunger (Video)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; I agree with you&#8230;there has to be a better way for non-profits and corporations to work together.  Glad Beth and you could flesh out the key points of this. And, glad Joe brings in the concept of coming from a position of strength.</p>
<p>We can expect to see more of this as existing organizations learn how to use social media and cause marketing together.  While we&#8217;ll have many glorious failures, we&#8217;ll have some great innovations, too.</p>
<p>@scottyhendo</p>
<p><abbr><em>Scott Henderson’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mediasauce-blog/~3/bRVoKhAKuPk/">The Back Story of the Pledge to End Hunger (Video)</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Waters</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-2108</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 13:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A man who stands on his feet is stronger than a man who stands on his head.&quot; - Emerson

John, you&#039;re absolutely right on nonprofits acting like a bunch of beggars most of the time. Instead of approaching a donor from a position of strength on the power of their mission and what they have to offer a donor, they crawl in on their knees looking for a handout!

This is one of the reasons I enjoy cause marketing because I can approach a company as an equal. Not only do I represent a fabulous nonprofit, but I have some valuable &quot;assets&quot; to share with the right partner. In short, I don&#039;t beg. I negotiate!

But whatever you do for nonprofit work, you can do it from a position of strength, power and value. Beggars need not apply.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Joe Waters’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://selfishgiving.com/cause-marketing-in-action/phantom-gourmet-cooks-up-cause-marketing-success&quot;&gt;Phantom Gourmet Cooks-Up Cause Marketing Success&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A man who stands on his feet is stronger than a man who stands on his head.&#8221; &#8211; Emerson</p>
<p>John, you&#8217;re absolutely right on nonprofits acting like a bunch of beggars most of the time. Instead of approaching a donor from a position of strength on the power of their mission and what they have to offer a donor, they crawl in on their knees looking for a handout!</p>
<p>This is one of the reasons I enjoy cause marketing because I can approach a company as an equal. Not only do I represent a fabulous nonprofit, but I have some valuable &#8220;assets&#8221; to share with the right partner. In short, I don&#8217;t beg. I negotiate!</p>
<p>But whatever you do for nonprofit work, you can do it from a position of strength, power and value. Beggars need not apply.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Joe Waters’s last blog post..<a href="http://selfishgiving.com/cause-marketing-in-action/phantom-gourmet-cooks-up-cause-marketing-success">Phantom Gourmet Cooks-Up Cause Marketing Success</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: johnscotthaydon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-2107</link>
		<dc:creator>johnscotthaydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 11:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth - thanks for the valuable comments - seriously.

Responsibility is a two way street - agreed. However, Non-profits can change how they use these programs - if they are creative and take 100% responsibility for the mission that they fight. Most small non-profits I know are like this.

In the end, most non-profits have little bandwidth to change how these programs are designed - unless they 1) participate in program design or 2) take away the demand for them (meaning don&#039;t participate - which is highly unlikely).

Board members might not know what &quot;social media best practices&quot; means. But I hope and pray that they know what &quot;sustainability&quot; means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth &#8211; thanks for the valuable comments &#8211; seriously.</p>
<p>Responsibility is a two way street &#8211; agreed. However, Non-profits can change how they use these programs &#8211; if they are creative and take 100% responsibility for the mission that they fight. Most small non-profits I know are like this.</p>
<p>In the end, most non-profits have little bandwidth to change how these programs are designed &#8211; unless they 1) participate in program design or 2) take away the demand for them (meaning don&#8217;t participate &#8211; which is highly unlikely).</p>
<p>Board members might not know what &#8220;social media best practices&#8221; means. But I hope and pray that they know what &#8220;sustainability&#8221; means.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Kanter</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-1/#comment-2109</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Kanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, it isn&#039;t about blame - poor choice words.  Responsibility is a two way street ... better practices from nonprofits and better designed contests might get at answer to your question:  How can non-profits use “vote for me” opportunities to create awareness without cheapening the very issues they are working for?


Begging happens when the contests designed to benefit a small number of organizations that are competing for a large chunk of cash.   That is if you go back look at the history of these efforts over the last three years, organizations will go all out, especially with a big cash incentive.  Yes it does fly in the face of social media best practices, but I suspect with the economic pressures that many institutions are facing  -- it isn&#039;t surprising.

And, the directives for strategy might be coming from the c-suite that is looking more at the dollar prize, not at social media best practices.

Contests could be designed to encourage best practices and the reward would not be for begging, but for using social media in a responsible way.
That&#039;s a win-win.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Beth Kanter’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bethblog/~3/FhY8Svp7z2k/so-you-want-a-facebook-fan-page-.html&quot;&gt;So you want a Facebook Fan Page for Your Nonprofit? Here&#039;s the Scoop!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, it isn&#8217;t about blame &#8211; poor choice words.  Responsibility is a two way street &#8230; better practices from nonprofits and better designed contests might get at answer to your question:  How can non-profits use “vote for me” opportunities to create awareness without cheapening the very issues they are working for?</p>
<p>Begging happens when the contests designed to benefit a small number of organizations that are competing for a large chunk of cash.   That is if you go back look at the history of these efforts over the last three years, organizations will go all out, especially with a big cash incentive.  Yes it does fly in the face of social media best practices, but I suspect with the economic pressures that many institutions are facing  &#8212; it isn&#8217;t surprising.</p>
<p>And, the directives for strategy might be coming from the c-suite that is looking more at the dollar prize, not at social media best practices.</p>
<p>Contests could be designed to encourage best practices and the reward would not be for begging, but for using social media in a responsible way.<br />
That&#8217;s a win-win.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Beth Kanter’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bethblog/~3/FhY8Svp7z2k/so-you-want-a-facebook-fan-page-.html">So you want a Facebook Fan Page for Your Nonprofit? Here&#8217;s the Scoop!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: johnscotthaydon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/05/dogs-cute-beg/comment-page-/#comment-2110</link>
		<dc:creator>johnscotthaydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 11:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Beth&lt;/strong&gt; - This isn&#039;t about blame (the word &quot;blame&quot; isn&#039;t in this post). It&#039;s about non-profits taking responsibility for using these opportunities in more effective ways. If non-profits just blame corporations for the way programs are designed, then they&#039;re putting themselves in a very weak position.

&quot;Off base&quot; implies that there is a game. Games need rules. There are no rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Beth</strong> &#8211; This isn&#8217;t about blame (the word &#8220;blame&#8221; isn&#8217;t in this post). It&#8217;s about non-profits taking responsibility for using these opportunities in more effective ways. If non-profits just blame corporations for the way programs are designed, then they&#8217;re putting themselves in a very weak position.</p>
<p>&#8220;Off base&#8221; implies that there is a game. Games need rules. There are no rules.</p>
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