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	<title>Comments on: Why I Didn&#8217;t Trust The Chase Bank Community Giving Campaign When It Started</title>
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		<title>By: CristianStar</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-6763</link>
		<dc:creator>CristianStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some banks can play very awful tricks on you if you don&#039;y pay attention to what they have to offer. I learned that a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some banks can play very awful tricks on you if you don&#39;y pay attention to what they have to offer. I learned that a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: timbrauhn</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4567</link>
		<dc:creator>timbrauhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One time I visited a Chase Bank location and asked them to float me a $1000 loan for 21 days at 2% interest and they declined. Apparently you can&#039;t just march in there and create company policy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a corollary, Chase cannot act as a gravity well (telling us how to do things) for social sector activism when they are clearly removed from our concerns.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I need to buy groceries today but I&#039;m not entirely certain that I want to wing it without a list. That&#039;s what I must do: Make a grocery list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One time I visited a Chase Bank location and asked them to float me a $1000 loan for 21 days at 2% interest and they declined. Apparently you can&#39;t just march in there and create company policy.</p>
<p>As a corollary, Chase cannot act as a gravity well (telling us how to do things) for social sector activism when they are clearly removed from our concerns.</p>
<p>Also, I need to buy groceries today but I&#39;m not entirely certain that I want to wing it without a list. That&#39;s what I must do: Make a grocery list.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristopherTaykalo</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4495</link>
		<dc:creator>ChristopherTaykalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing this to our attention, John! When I entered Chase Bank into Google News, the only online post that came up was on The Huffington Post - The NY Times didn&#039;t even register! Not being a regular reader of The Huffington Post, I never would have heard about this. Your sharing ROCKS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing this to our attention, John! When I entered Chase Bank into Google News, the only online post that came up was on The Huffington Post &#8211; The NY Times didn&#39;t even register! Not being a regular reader of The Huffington Post, I never would have heard about this. Your sharing ROCKS!</p>
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		<title>By: aaronstiner</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4494</link>
		<dc:creator>aaronstiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s unfortunate they messed up the contest and then messed up more by seeming to crawl into a shell and be disingenuous. That said, I think it is actually a really healthy thing that Chase was willing to use Facebook to crowdsource their corporate philanthropy. What a fantastic idea! My hope is they fix the mistakes, make it more transparent, make it better and bring it back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s unfortunate they messed up the contest and then messed up more by seeming to crawl into a shell and be disingenuous. That said, I think it is actually a really healthy thing that Chase was willing to use Facebook to crowdsource their corporate philanthropy. What a fantastic idea! My hope is they fix the mistakes, make it more transparent, make it better and bring it back!</p>
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		<title>By: ChristopherTaykalo</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4429</link>
		<dc:creator>ChristopherTaykalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing this to our attention, John! When I entered Chase Bank into Google News, the only online post that came up was on The Huffington Post - The NY Times didn&#039;t even register! Not being a regular reader of The Huffington Post, I never would have heard about this. Your sharing ROCKS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing this to our attention, John! When I entered Chase Bank into Google News, the only online post that came up was on The Huffington Post &#8211; The NY Times didn&#39;t even register! Not being a regular reader of The Huffington Post, I never would have heard about this. Your sharing ROCKS!</p>
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		<title>By: aaronstiner</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4424</link>
		<dc:creator>aaronstiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s unfortunate they messed up the contest and then messed up more by seeming to crawl into a shell and be disingenuous. That said, I think it is actually a really healthy thing that Chase was willing to use Facebook to crowdsource their corporate philanthropy. What a fantastic idea! My hope is they fix the mistakes, make it more transparent, make it better and bring it back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s unfortunate they messed up the contest and then messed up more by seeming to crawl into a shell and be disingenuous. That said, I think it is actually a really healthy thing that Chase was willing to use Facebook to crowdsource their corporate philanthropy. What a fantastic idea! My hope is they fix the mistakes, make it more transparent, make it better and bring it back!</p>
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		<title>By: John Haydon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>John Haydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You summed up the entire post beautifully! Thier lack of disclosure  &lt;br&gt;and follow up have left folks with nothing to do but fill in the blanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey,</p>
<p>You summed up the entire post beautifully! Thier lack of disclosure  <br />and follow up have left folks with nothing to do but fill in the blanks.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: John Haydon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>John Haydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You summed up the entire post beautifully! Thier lack of disclosure  &lt;br&gt;and follow up have left folks with nothing to do but fill in the blanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey,</p>
<p>You summed up the entire post beautifully! Thier lack of disclosure  <br />and follow up have left folks with nothing to do but fill in the blanks.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Gomez</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4412</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, thanks to you (and to Beth) for calling attention to the irregularities associated with the Chase Community Giving Campaign.  I suspect that it would have gone largely ignored/unremarked upon had it not been for your efforts. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I respect a company&#039;s right to set parameters and limitations around their charitable activities.  I may not agree with them, and I may choose not to participate based on what they are, but I do believe that it&#039;s up to the company (well, as long as it&#039;s legal).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s also a best practice to clearly state those rules and conditions at the beginning of the contest, and not to change them part-way through.  That way potential competitors can make an informed decision about whether or not to participate (Jeff, I appreciated your perspective as a board member of a participating agency - it was very insightful).  When the decision process went behind-the-scenes and community members questioned that, all channels of communication shut-down.  In such a vacuum (as Scott pointed out), speculation runs rampant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Removed posts and comments from their Facebook wall?  Really?  Like no one was going to notice?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a shame - this could have so easily been avoided with a little planning and forethought.  Even the flawed process could have turned into a healthy discussion with supporters, one that may have even earned their respect.  It was a great concept that should have resulted in a win-win for both Chase and the finalists.  Unfortunately it appears that Chase, instead of boosting it&#039;s image, will end up featured in upcoming case studies showing what NOT to do.  #causewash (Steve, I LOVE this hashtag!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks to you (and to Beth) for calling attention to the irregularities associated with the Chase Community Giving Campaign.  I suspect that it would have gone largely ignored/unremarked upon had it not been for your efforts. </p>
<p>I respect a company&#39;s right to set parameters and limitations around their charitable activities.  I may not agree with them, and I may choose not to participate based on what they are, but I do believe that it&#39;s up to the company (well, as long as it&#39;s legal).  </p>
<p>It&#39;s also a best practice to clearly state those rules and conditions at the beginning of the contest, and not to change them part-way through.  That way potential competitors can make an informed decision about whether or not to participate (Jeff, I appreciated your perspective as a board member of a participating agency &#8211; it was very insightful).  When the decision process went behind-the-scenes and community members questioned that, all channels of communication shut-down.  In such a vacuum (as Scott pointed out), speculation runs rampant.</p>
<p>Removed posts and comments from their Facebook wall?  Really?  Like no one was going to notice?</p>
<p>It&#39;s a shame &#8211; this could have so easily been avoided with a little planning and forethought.  Even the flawed process could have turned into a healthy discussion with supporters, one that may have even earned their respect.  It was a great concept that should have resulted in a win-win for both Chase and the finalists.  Unfortunately it appears that Chase, instead of boosting it&#39;s image, will end up featured in upcoming case studies showing what NOT to do.  #causewash (Steve, I LOVE this hashtag!)</p>
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		<title>By: John Haydon</title>
		<link>http://www.johnhaydon.com/2009/12/trust-chase-bank-community-giving-campaign-started/comment-page-1/#comment-4411</link>
		<dc:creator>John Haydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way will work, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way will work, I think.</p>
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